tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post7420336240106094017..comments2023-11-03T04:07:19.586-05:00Comments on Vanderbilt Sports Line: Toledo Point-Shaving Indictments Shed New Light on 2006-07 MBB SeasonSeamus O'Toolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11811017078765515449noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-18037013618782997852009-05-09T15:49:00.000-05:002009-05-09T15:49:00.000-05:00Anonymous --
Because you chose to be an impolite ...Anonymous --<br /><br />Because you chose to be an impolite jackass, allow me to be the first to call you an idiot. You clearly don't understand that point-shaving schemes don't necessarily ONLY involve shaving when you're favored. That's the usual formula of course. But they can also -- and here apparently DID -- involve tanking when you're a slight underdog. Toledo was a 4.5 point dog. There IS such a thing (believe it or not!) as being paid to lose on purpose, and to make sure that you do it by at least 5 points. The whole idea is that if it's an out-of-conference opponent and you don't have much of a tournament chance anyway, why not lose to Vanderbilt by 10 (or 5 or whatever) and make some money rather than bust your ass to win a game that won't really matter to your team anyway? (Or so the thinking goes.)<br /><br />Last but not least, if you're trying to say that only games when Toledo was favored by 10+ would have been investigated and not any games when they were picked to lose, then why don't you ask the FBI why they chose the Vandy game as one of only a handful on which to base a federal criminal indictment.<br /><br />So now you know what getting owned actually is. I'm shedding a single tear for you.Seamus O'Toolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11811017078765515449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-37349089758267945132009-05-09T15:26:00.000-05:002009-05-09T15:26:00.000-05:00let's not forget all the victories over ranked tea...let's not forget all the victories over ranked teams. that team was rewarded for their hot finish to the season after a rocky start. I don't think having a record at 1-4 is any more demoralizing than 1-3. That team CHOSE to turn it's season around and didn't let anyone stop them. In any case, I think putting them at a 12 or 13 seed with all those wins over ranked teams is a little crazy of a drop from a 6 seed. <br /><br />too many intangibles in all that anyway, who says they don't play a more desperate game against Arkansas knowing they need to win to make the tourney.Sol Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590698219531038320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-74239318335713612212009-05-09T08:25:00.000-05:002009-05-09T08:25:00.000-05:00Patterson returns... a big uhoh for the SEC east. ...Patterson returns... a big uhoh for the SEC east. Damn it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03603516434710912006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-80524001239000874812009-05-08T14:08:00.000-05:002009-05-08T14:08:00.000-05:00You clearly don't understand how point shaving wor...You clearly don't understand how point shaving works. Vanderbilt would have been favored in that game, so tanking would have not been in Toledo's favor. The games that are rigged, largely, are the games in which Toledo would have been favored by 10+. Then, knowing it should be easy to win, the shavers would miss a few shots here and there and keep the lead under ten. Rarely, if ever does points shaving affect a team when the shavers aren't favored by a lot. In the Vandy game, Toledo conceivably would have been 10+ underdogs. What would the shavers have done to beat that spread? Played harder?<br /><br />You have just been owned. Go cry now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com