tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post1501389530215610807..comments2023-11-03T04:07:19.586-05:00Comments on Vanderbilt Sports Line: VSL Hot Topic: What's the Bigger Upset, Appy State over Michigan or Stanford over USC?Seamus O'Toolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11811017078765515449noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-67801341563832082812007-10-31T14:10:00.000-05:002007-10-31T14:10:00.000-05:00Thanks to author.Thanks to author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-82878458457008086132007-10-31T13:42:00.000-05:002007-10-31T13:42:00.000-05:00Fb4mLQ Hello all!Fb4mLQ Hello all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-42507993120172898902007-10-30T08:29:00.000-05:002007-10-30T08:29:00.000-05:00Nice Article.Nice Article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-3565515790959951402007-10-30T04:38:00.000-05:002007-10-30T04:38:00.000-05:00Thanks to author.Thanks to author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-29326111299147669942007-10-30T01:24:00.000-05:002007-10-30T01:24:00.000-05:00Please write anything else!Please write anything else!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-50806601188094997052007-10-28T09:55:00.000-05:002007-10-28T09:55:00.000-05:00actually, that's brilliant. 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I'm going to pass that on to a couple of people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-37283416166166575932007-10-26T14:21:00.000-05:002007-10-26T14:21:00.000-05:00Thanks to author.Thanks to author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-29097976945598511852007-10-26T13:09:00.000-05:002007-10-26T13:09:00.000-05:00ZLOm0g Thanks to author.ZLOm0g Thanks to author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-44708592207541818642007-10-26T04:55:00.000-05:002007-10-26T04:55:00.000-05:0018RwLr Your blog is great. Articles is interesting...18RwLr Your blog is great. Articles is interesting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-59632057569307267822007-10-14T20:38:00.000-05:002007-10-14T20:38:00.000-05:00"Take a look at Notre Dame. Name recognition? Chec..."Take a look at Notre Dame. Name recognition? Check. Player legacies? Check. Deep talent pool? You get the point. It's the most storied program in the history of college football. This year, the Irish are an abysmal 1-5 and everyone knows they're just not a particularly good team. But by your logic, if Appy State had beaten Notre Dame THIS SEASON, it would have been a bigger upset than Stanford over USC THIS SEASON. I don't think you'd be willing to concede that, nor would anyone else reading this blog, and yet that's the corner I think you paint yourself into by emphasizing funding and recruiting capabilities over on-field performance."<BR/><BR/>I would say that App. State over Notre Dame would be an upset greater than Stanford USC for the same reason and logic I discussed and I believe that is a perfectly valid contention. It'd be basically the same as the Michigan win (although maybe a little less so because at the time of the game everyone knew Notre Dame wouldn't be any good).Stanimalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06068492073488859014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-5954202127802862922007-10-14T20:33:00.000-05:002007-10-14T20:33:00.000-05:00Alright, I left this conversation because I had to...Alright, I left this conversation because I had to go to Nashville. And I don't have a lot of time because of school work, so I'll be brief. (also don't have time to read 40 posts so if this is already said then fine)<BR/><BR/>It doesn't matter how good Michigan ends up being this year or how good Stanford or USC are. In terms of big in season upsets USC clearly had the most to lose. The reason I think App. State is a bigger upset is because despite the fact Michigan isn't good, they SHOULD be good. The advantages Michigan has in terms of money and recruits is far greater than App. State can or ever will have. So when a team that clearly is disadvantaged from the beginning pulls off a win like that, it's a more memorable upset than one based solely on ranking. The reason is because of the vastness of Michigan's advantage compared to that of App. State. Stanford and USC are on a more comparable level.Stanimalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06068492073488859014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-18695207066045970662007-10-10T15:02:00.000-05:002007-10-10T15:02:00.000-05:00Yes. It takes nothing away from what App did to th...Yes. It takes nothing away from what App did to them, in my view. Period. See that shoe? That says Adidas. <BR/><BR/>MZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-58340010567902752012007-10-10T15:00:00.000-05:002007-10-10T15:00:00.000-05:00See Boyer's question, inter alia.See Boyer's question, inter alia.Seamus O'Toolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11811017078765515449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-92131611779419405562007-10-10T14:57:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:57:00.000-05:00Doc - What if Michigan loses 4 of their last 6, in...Doc - <BR/><BR/>What if Michigan loses 4 of their last 6, including one to abysmal Minnesota?<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, USC pulls it together and beats the piss out of Cal and Oregon and wins out.<BR/><BR/>Still?Boyer in the Districthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04843192367174824028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-88628376349197779192007-10-10T14:53:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:53:00.000-05:00I realize this Seamus. But I was saying I disagree...I realize this Seamus. But I was saying I disagreed with your point that time will tell. I don't think anything Michigan does at this point will take away from what App did to them. If anything, you could argue that the loss triggered their utterly tragic and unfixable collapse. <BR/><BR/>Disagreeing that Seamus doesn't think he's disagreeing -- <BR/><BR/>THE DOCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-89906305582865352382007-10-10T14:51:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:51:00.000-05:00Once again, Seamus is right - you have to compare ...Once again, Seamus is right - you have to compare teams THIS YEAR. The only reason I threw Minnesota in my last comparison with BCS conference teams that were bad is because the gophers are a whopping 1-5 this year. I know from experience they've been good in the past - they just suck this year.<BR/><BR/>Stanford sucks this year, and has sucked in recent years. They had NO BUSINESS even hanging with USC. I'll give App. State credit for shock value at the beginning of the season, but I was more shocked at Stanford piling on USC.Boyer in the Districthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04843192367174824028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-4503485275045651952007-10-10T14:48:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:48:00.000-05:00BP, That is acceptable. I dont think vandy will b...BP, <BR/><BR/>That is acceptable. I dont think vandy will be embarrassed. The game is at 5:00, and is sold out. While i know that UGA travels well, and that there will undoubtedly be a large sea of red at the stadium (because Athens is so close and because we beat them last year) Students and alumni will go to the game. It is homecoming, and there is still some hope for this team to pull out a win (although not that much in my mind). That being said i will be there at kick off and everyone else should be there to. I think a 5:00 game gives you plenty of time to get bombed and walk the few feet the the stadium. If not, then get creative and duct tape some moonshine in a plastic bag to your leg and take it in!!Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706393917832957281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-90651475118702149342007-10-10T14:45:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:45:00.000-05:00"...going by sheer shock factor at the moment it h..."...going by sheer shock factor at the moment it happened." -- The Doc<BR/><BR/>As you'll see by reading my first comment on this topic, I agree completely with your assessment given the "at that time" rationale.Seamus O'Toolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11811017078765515449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-81337310494632231012007-10-10T14:42:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:42:00.000-05:00Aaron, my 10-year high school reunion is this Satu...Aaron, my 10-year high school reunion is this Saturday night. Otherwise I would be there.<BR/><BR/>Someone please give me hope that Vandy won't be completely embarassed.BPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11324920022782114611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-55522549003208020372007-10-10T14:31:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:31:00.000-05:00I kinda feel that App over Michigan this season wi...I kinda feel that App over Michigan this season will still be bigger than Stanford over USC this season, regardless of how Michigan finishes. And this is going by the sheer shock factor of the moment it happened. Michigan's final record this season doesn't change the fact they came into it with two Heisman candidates, fresh off of a campaign where they came within one score of playing in a national championship. So at the time, they certainly deserved a top-5 ranking. I also think it's pretty dramatic that a team with title hopes that high had them destroyed in the first week of the season. Up in smoke. Finito. No chance for a Florida-esque one-loss title run. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I think Henne and Manningham, in particular, really haven't shown much heart over the final stretch of their careers. A tough loss to OSU and they folded to USC. Another tough loss to App and they got bitch slapped by Oregon (granted a lot of folks have Oregon as a top-5 team now). Henne, in my mind, has become the Chris Simms of Michigan. Anyone agree on this one?<BR/><BR/>THE DOCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-2199368384126752862007-10-10T14:22:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:22:00.000-05:00So basically we have two very different ways of de...So basically we have two very different ways of determining what constitutes an "upset." <BR/><BR/>All those in favor of classifying upsets according to the brand name of a team, say "aye."<BR/><BR/>(I think going this route logically forces you to make doubtful claims, e.g., VCU beating Duke in basketball last year was a bigger upset than if VCU had beaten, say, Ohio State. Ohio State was the better team LAST SEASON though it has less of a name brand than Duke. The same analogy applies across the board.)Seamus O'Toolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11811017078765515449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-640778288989151924.post-67088891700812306312007-10-10T14:13:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:13:00.000-05:00I am pretty sure you need to draft articles of inc...I am pretty sure you need to draft articles of incorporation to create an LLC, and file those with the state corporation commission of the respective state you are attempting to incorporate within. But those are easy to draft, so for the bet i am in... Is anyone going to be at Vandy this weekend to watch them play UGA? It is homecoming so i would hope that all of you who went to vandy will be there, if not, how can you call yourselves fans.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706393917832957281noreply@blogger.com